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A poker-dealing machine is supposed to deal cards at random, as if from an infinite deck. In a test, you counted cards, and observed the following: Spades.


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If you want to be a poker dealer, you need to know how to deal Texas holdem in an automatic shuffler and retrieve a freshly shuffled deck from the machine. If the player supposed to be in the small blind has left you deal the first card to the.


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With all the turmoil in her life, Misty's thoughts still returned to poker. player without working in a casino as a cocktail waitress or poker dealer. She'd been eating vending machine peanut butter and crackers, diet cokes, and candy bars.


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before putting them back in the shuffling machine or shuffling them by hand. In normal live-game dealing, you only need to do a quick scramble to break up the.


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A poker-dealing machine is supposed to deal cards at random, as if from an infinite deck. In a test, you counted cards, and observed the.


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changes, the incoming dealer will open and place the used deck into the When placing or removing the deck from the shuffling machine, hold the deck as if.


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PRACTICE PROBLEMS 1 A poker dealing machine is supposed to deal cards at random Support your answer using Chi square analysis ANSWERS.


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This new hand is then assigned a score by the machine. Unlike traditional For example, suppose that a person is dealt J77xx (a. Jack, two 7s.


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Second, you are not playing your cards against a card-dealing machine but against other players, and their behavior gives you information about how good they.


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Cutting the deck was done historically to prevent stacking the deck. Not that Vegas hasn't had a monopoly on other businesses, and made sure that maximum gain was made at the expense of the gambler. The next day was "normal" again. That has never happened before or since. They monitor all the casinos. Now are we to be trusting knowing its impossible to prove that these poker rooms are not going to cheat us, im sorry fellas they are for sure. This proves that machines are capable of setting up the deck how ever they want. We all know it's possible, but would they really give a game a house edge to maximize profit? It is computer dealt to each player first 3 cards at a time with the dealer last under very strict rules about staying in your seat at all times, waiting for all cards to be dealt before looking, and never hand-shuffled ever. That is supposed to be extremely rare and likely would never witness it or hear of someone witnessing it, yet here it happens three different times in a few short days of LIVE poker where not that many hands are dealt per hour. Dealers cut decks around the half way mark but no chance they are exact every time which means the deal is going to be different even if the deck is "set up. One has to do with an experience in a small poker room using the machines a few years back when the cards just landed too strangely to be real for a whole Friday night. I am blown away at most players refusal to see the truth and back these machines without even looking at the facts. Ask the dealer to cut the deck in a different place then always directly in half. One caller Flop is AK Turn card is Money goes all in on the turn River card is another K So the board reads AK36K Now remember what I folded? Sure enough, on the screen popped up the 8 of hearts the card that the rep. Also, we Americans like to think that the gaming commission would prevent such a thing; however, how many times in the last 20 years have we made discoveries as a society about things that should have been caught, noticed, or detected and it took way too long. I have been careful not to mention any specifics in this dialogue, but I am very curious if others experiences resemble mine in any way in any or other games. I asked them why? The machines shuffle a deck while game is in play, so when one hand is done the dealer just loads the machine back up with the deck just played, while grabbing the other deck that's been shuffled. Setting up a deck, then cutting it exactly at card 26 seems like an impossibility. There are other features that make these much more valuable. It's not weird. So i played it cool and asked him can these machines read cards. Sitting in the middle of the table was death for almost everyone. You're focused on being cheated by the casino when it's design is to prevent being cheated by others which helps you. Are flops stranger than hell from those machines, yes! They wont do it. Those 2 facts are a recipe for disaster. The house is already favored without these machines. I have noticed all of these, but can't really prove it. Ive asked the dealer why do they cut the deck every time in half. Each machine has 2 different cameras inside! Can anyone answer any of these red flags because i have asked the dealers the floor man the pit boss and not one have answered any. The casino could also offer at least 1 table that has a hand shuffled live cash game but they are too greedy apparently. There is no way the machines are used to "set up the deck" to hit jackpots. This was a great time i thought to get some answers about the machines that all the casinos use. I would think by having just these few red flags that something could be done to blackball these cheats. Enough people win, that it doesn't look fixed, and it's nearly impossible to prove. Each time a hand is dealt the house gets a few dollars for their cut. Also, I have seen on many occasions that when a machine malfunctions a couple times, they will replace it and hand shuffle until a different machine is brought over. It's not fiscally responsible to have hundreds of shuffle machines for a 2 month period. At all the single deck BJ tables they allow you to cut the deck with a card and some other games when they use a shoe. I didn't think about it too much as I was a beneficiary that night as a "new" player I was welcomed with great hands, pots, and a lot of money that night. Read more about how the card shuffler works and you will also find it doesn't even matter about the "cut" the dealer makes Research it The cards can still be setup for action and not care whom gets "favored" Usually one seat gets hot streak for a bit, then extremely cold Sometimes you can totally sense the turn and river uncannily give you the runner runner after you folded Pay more close attention next time you sit where this is an auto shuffler{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Tournaments held inside poker rooms that I have played in Vegas included use the shuffle machines. WSOP utilizes fold out tables to accommodate the thousands of players in multiple conference rooms, not a normal poker room. They claim the reason they use these machines is to get more hands dealt. Would people still win? If anyone has any insight on why this continues in all the casinos, or any factual rebuttals, i would love to hear from you. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}For the longest time I have been debating with other players about these so-called random number generators machines that for some reason everyone believes they are legit. Another argument is they cant do that they will get caught by the gaming commission. I then asked the rep. As a poker player, I would like more hands per hour as well. Fast forward to today, when I know much more about technology, and card odds. After that first night, it was never the same again for me there. Why do they have 2 cameras inside, when i spoke with a bally representative he claimed its to catch cheaters. It is faster to clear a jam than it is to replace a machine. So there was 5 kings in the deck The bad beat from the guy having AA is insane enough, but 5 kings? This is a big deal when it comes down to it. Hes just real lucky that's all! He had a machine opened up and showed me the cameras he then took a card out while it was opened and turned it on. Just do me favor fellow poker friend when you play with the machine next time pay attention to what i have been paranoid about. And, we can't forget that Poker especially can be as random as it gets, and anything is truly possible. WTF is that all about. How are they going to catch them its impossible to prove. The board pairs far more often than it ever should in hand shuffle. Not my favorite game in general, but it did make me think more about those machines. In the event of cheating, it is always beneficial and faster to know what card is missing so it can be identified and, as a player, ensures me that I am in fact NOT being cheated by someone holding a card. I was at the Bicycle casino and was walking through the floor and i came across a fellow who worked for bally not the casino. Also, if you can find me a dealer that can cut a deck at the 26th card every single time, I would be impressed. Cutting it in half makes sense. But, once you've seen enough hands, I think most of us can detect something is strange when too many things happen that are too good to be truly random. I also had a pro tell me that it is typically good to sit first or last in a full or nearly full game. Additionally, there is no way to tell how any player will a specific hand. There are so many full houses it is beyond "normal probability" More examples: Three different people here in Vegas told me that in the last few days they saw quads get beaten by straight flush. Does blackjack seem wonky when played out of one of those machines? I took a random interest in 3 card poker this week, and starting watching it more. Yes they are concerned about getting more drops in - casinos are not non-profit organizations. I will have to agree with zzjitterzz that you are being far too paranoid. It seems that once you detect the patterns, you can effectively play better, but there will always be random curveballs thrown into the mix. That sounded bizarre to me, but I tested it, and sure enough, I was hitting bonuses, 3 card straights and flushes, and was even struck by some of the full houses made by neighboring hands, whether it connected to the dealer or not the full house bonus of your best 5 made from your 3 cards with the house's 3 cards. I have definitely been pondering this one for a few reasons. So, there are 2 schools of thought- One is that it just is not good for business if this was really happening, and who would keep pouring money down a fixed system, not to mention liability from the company that makes Shuffle Master. The rep. As it stands right now for me i don't play with these machines anymore only hand shuffled games which are only tournaments. Additionally, the machine can never know if, after being shuffled, a one or multiple players will ask to be dealt out, get up for a walk etc.